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Christian Scholars Recognize Contradictions in the Bible (part 3 of7): Introduction

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Description: A look at what some of the leading Christian Scholars have said about the authenticity of the Bible.
By Misha’al ibn Abdullah (taken from the Book: What did Jesus really Say?)
Published on 02 Jul 2007 - Last modified on 16 Oct 2011
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“Then woe to those who write the book with their own hands and then say: ‘This is from God’, to traffic with it for a miserable price.  Woe to them for what their hands do write and for the gain they make thereby.” (Quran 2:79)
“And when there came to them a messenger from God, Confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the book threw away the book of God behind their backs as if (it had been something) they did not know.” (Quran 2:101)
“Ye shall not add unto the word which I (God) command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deuteronomy 4:2)
Christian Scholars Recognize Contradictions in the Bible (part 3 of7): Introduction Christian_Scholars_Recognize_Contradictions_in_the_Bible_(part_1_of_5)_001Let us start from the beginning.  No Biblical scholar on this earth will claim that the Bible was written by Jesus himself.  They all agree that the Bible was written after the departure of Jesus peace be upon him by his followers.  Dr. W Graham Scroggie of the Moody Bible Institute, Chicago, a prestigious Christian evangelical mission, says:
“..Yes, the Bible is human, although some out of zeal which is not according to knowledge, have denied this.  Those books have passed through the minds of men, are written in the language of men, were penned by the hands of men and bear in their style the characteristics of men….It is Human, Yet Divine,”[1]
Another Christian scholar, Kenneth Cragg, the Anglican Bishop of Jerusalem, says:
“...Not so the New Testament...There is condensation and editing; there is choice reproduction and witness.  The Gospels have come through the mind of the church behind the authors.  They represent experience and history...”[2]
“It is well known that the primitive Christian Gospel was initially transmitted by word of mouth and that this oral tradition resulted in variant reporting of word and deed.  It is equally true that when the Christian record was committed to writing it continued to be the subject of verbal variation.  Involuntary and intentional, at the hands of scribes and editors.”[3]
“Yet, as a matter of fact, every book of the New Testament with the exception of the four great Epistles of St. Paul is at present more or less the subject of controversy, and interpolations are asserted even in these.”[4]
Dr. Lobegott Friedrich Konstantin Von Tischendorf, one of the most adamant conservative Christian defenders of the Trinity was himself driven to admit that:
“[the New Testament had] in many passages undergone such serious modification of meaning as to leave us in painful uncertainty as to what the Apostles had actually written”[5]
After listing many examples of contradictory statements in the Bible, Dr. Frederic Kenyon says:
“Besides the larger discrepancies, such as these, there is scarcely a verse in which there is not some variation of phrase in some copies [of the ancient manuscripts from which the Bible has been collected].  No one can say that these additions or omissions or alterations are matters of mere indifference”[6]
Throughout this book you will find countless other similar quotations from some of Christendom’s leading scholars.  Let us suffice with these for now.
Christians are, in general, good and decent people, and the stronger their convictions the more decent they are.  This is attested to in the noble Quran:
“...and nearest among them (men) in love to the believers will you find those who say ‘we are Christians’: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.  And when they listen to the revelation received by the messenger (Muhammad), you will see their eyes overflowing with tears for they recognize the truth: They pray: ‘Our Lord!  we believe; write us down among the witnesses.’” (Quran 5:82-83)
All biblical “versions” of the Bible prior to the revised version of 1881 were dependent upon the “Ancient Copies” (those dating between five to six hundred years after Jesus).  The revisers of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) 1952 were the first biblical scholars to have access to the “MOST ancient copies” which date fully three to four hundred years after Christ.  It is only logical for us to concur that the closer a document is to the source the more authentic it is.  Let us see what is the opinion of Christendom with regard to the most revised version of the Bible (revised in 1952 and then again in 1971):
“The finest version which has been produced in the present century” - (Church of England newspaper)
“A completely fresh translation by scholars of the highest eminence” - (Times literary supplement)
“The well loved characteristics of the authorized version combined with a new accuracy of translation” - (Life and Work)
“The most accurate and close rendering of the original” - (The Times)
The publishers themselves (Collins) mention on page 10 of their notes:
“This Bible (RSV) is the product of thirty two scholars assisted by an advisory committee representing fifty cooperating denominations”
Let us see what these thirty two Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by fifty cooperating Christian denominations have to say about the Authorized Version (AV), or as it is better known, the King James Version (KJV).  In the preface of the RSV 1971 we find the following:
“...Yet the King James Version has GRAVE DEFECTS..”
They go on to caution us that:
“...That these defects are SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS as to call for revision”
The Jehovah’s Witnesses in their “AWAKE” Magazine dated 8th September 1957 published the following headline: “50,000 Errors in the Bible” wherein they say “..there are probably 50,000 errors in the Bible...errors which have crept into the Bible text...50,000 such serious errors...”  After all of this, however, they go on to say: “...as a whole the Bible is accurate.”  Let us have a look at only a very few of these errors.


Footnotes:
[1] W Graham Scroggie, p. 17
[2] The Call of the Minaret, Kenneth Cragg, p 277
[3] Peake’s Commentary on the Bible, p. 633
[4] Encyclopaedia Brittanica, 12th Ed. Vol. 3, p. 643
[5] Secrets of Mount Sinai, James Bentley, p. 117
[6] Our Bible and the Ancient Manuscripts, Dr. Frederic Kenyon, Eyre and Spottiswoode, p. 3
Christian Scholars Recognize Contradictions in the Bible (part 2 of 7): Examples of Interpolation
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Description: Some examples of the interpolations in the Bible, as mentioned by Christian scholars.
By Misha’al ibn Abdullah (taken from the Book: What Did Jesus Really Say?)
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In John 3:16 - AV(KJV) we read:
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life..”
[…] this fabrication “begotten” has now been unceremoniously excised by these most eminent of Bible revisers.  However, humanity did not have to wait 2000 years for this revelation.
In Maryam(19):88-98 of the noble Quran we read:
“And they say ‘God Most Compassionate has begotten a son!’  Indeed you have put forth a thing most monstrous!  The skies are ready to burst (at such a claim), and the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin.  That they should ascribe a son to the Most Compassionate.  But it is not befitting [the majesty of] the Most Compassionate that He should beget a son.  Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to the Most Compassionate as a slave.  He has taken account of all of them and has numbered them all exactly.  And every one of them will come to him singly on the day of judgment.  On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, will God most gracious bestow love.  Verily, We have made this [Quran] easy in your tongue [O Muhammad] that you might deliver glad tidings to those who seek refuge [in God] and warn with it a people who are contentious.  And how many a generation before them have we destroyed!  Can you find a single one of them or hear from them so much as a whisper?”
In 1st Epistle of John 5:7 (King James Version) we find:
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.”
As we have already seen in section 1.2.2.5, this verse is the closest approximation to what the Church calls the holy Trinity.  However, as seen in that section, this cornerstone of the Christian faith has also been scrapped from the RSV by the same thirty two Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by fifty cooperating Christian denominations, once again all according to the “most ancient manuscripts.”  And once again, we find that the noble Quran revealed this truth over fourteen hundred years ago:
“O people of the book!  commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God aught but the truth.  Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a Messenger of God, and his Word, which he bestowed upon Mary, and a spirit preceding from him so believe in God and his messengers.  Say not “Three” desist It will be better for you for God is one God Glory be to him Far exalted is he above having a son.  To him belong all things in the heavens and the earth.  And enough is God as a disposer of affairs.” (Quran 4:171)
Prior to 1952 all versions of the Bible made mention of one of the most miraculous events associated with the prophet Jesus peace be upon him, that of his ascension into heaven:
“So then the lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God” (Mark 16:19)
…and once again in Luke:
“While he blessed them, he parted from them, and was carried up into heaven.  And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy.” (Luke 24:51-52)
In the 1952 RSV Mark 16 ends at verse 8 and the rest is relegated in small print to a footnote (more on this later).  Similarly, in the commentary on the verses of Luke 24, we are told in the footnotes of the NRSV Bible “Other ancient authorities lack “and was carried up into heaven’“ and “Other ancient authorities lack ‘and worshipped him.’”  Thus, we see that the verse of Luke in it’s original form only said:
“While he blessed them, he parted from them. And they returned to Jerusalem with great joy.”
It took centuries of “inspired correction” to give us Luke 24:51-52 in their current form.
As another example, in Luke 24:1-7 we read:
“Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulcher, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.  And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulcher.  And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.  And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?  He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spoke unto you when he was yet in Galilee, saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.”
Once again, in reference to verse 5, the footnotes say: “Other ancient authorities lack ‘He is not here but has risen’”
The examples are far too numerous to list here, however, you are encouraged to obtain a copy of the New Revised Standard Version of the Bible for yourself and scan through the four gospels.  You shall be hard pressed to find even two consecutive pages that do not contain the words “Other ancient authorities lack...” or “Other ancient authorities add...” etc.  in the footnotes.
Christian Scholars Recognize Contradictions in the Bible (part 3 of 7): Alleged authors of the New Testament
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Description: Evidence of contradictions found by Christian Scholars from the narrations of the alleged authors of the New Testament.
By Misha’al ibn Abdullah (taken from the Book: What Did Jesus Really Say?)
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We will note that every Gospel begins with the introduction “According to.....” such as “The Gospel according to Saint Matthew,” “The Gospel according to Saint Luke,” “The Gospel according to Saint Mark,” “The Gospel according to Saint John.”  The obvious conclusion for the average man on the street is that these people are known to be the authors of the books attributed to them.  This, however is not the case.  Why? Because not one of the vaunted four thousand copies existent carries it’s author’s signature.  It has just been assumed that they were the authors.  Recent discoveries, however, refute this belief.  Even the internal evidence proves that, for instance, Matthew did not write the Gospel attributed to him:
“...And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE (Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus).” (Matthew 9:9)
It does not take a rocket scientist to see that neither Jesus nor Matthew wrote this verse of “Matthew.”  Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the New Testament.  Although many people have hypothesized that it is possible that an author sometimes may write in the third person, still, in light of the rest of the evidence that we shall see throughout this book, there is simply too much evidence against this hypothesis.
This observation is by no means limited to the New Testament.  There is even proof that at least parts of Deuteronomy were neither written by God nor by Moses.  This can be seen in Deuteronomy 34:5-10 where we read:
“So Moses....DIED... and he (God Almighty) BURIED HIM (Moses)... He was 120 years old WHEN HE DIED... and there arose not a prophet SINCE in Israel like unto Moses....”
Did Moses write his own obituary? Joshua also speaks in detail about his own death in Joshua 24:29-33.  The evidence overwhelmingly supports the current recognition that most of the books of the Bible were not written by their supposed authors.
The authors of the RSV by Collins say that the author of “Kings” is “Unknown.”  If they knew it to be the word of God they would have undoubtedly attributed it to him.  Rather, they have chosen to honestly say “Author... Unknown.”  But if the author is unknown then why attribute it to God? How can it then be claimed to have been “inspired”? Continuing, we read that the book of Isaiah is “Mainly credited to Isaiah.  Parts may have been written by others.”  Ecclesiastics: “Author.  Doubtful, but commonly assigned to Solomon.”  Ruth: “Author.  Not definitely known, perhaps Samuel,” and on and on.
Let us have a slightly more detailed look at only one book of the New Testament:
“The author of the Book of Hebrews is unknown.  Martin Luther suggested that Apollos was the author... Tertullian said that Hebrews was a letter of Barnabas... Adolf Harnack and J. Rendel Harris speculated that it was written by Priscilla (or Prisca).  William Ramsey suggested that it was done by Philip.  However, the traditional position is that the Apostle Paul wrote Hebrews... Eusebius believed that Paul wrote it, but Origen was not positive of Pauline authorship.”[1]
Is this how we define “inspired by God”?
As seen in chapter one, St. Paul and his church after him, were responsible of making wholesale changes to the religion of Jesus (pbuh) after his departure and were further responsible for mounting a massive campaign of death and torture of all Christians who refused to renounce the teachings of the apostles in favor of the Pauline doctrines.  All but the Gospels acceptable to the Pauline faith were then systematically destroyed or re-written.  Rev. Charles Anderson Scott has the following to say:
“It is highly probable that not one of the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) was in existence in the form which we have it, prior to the death of Paul.  And were the documents to be taken in strict order of chronology, the Pauline Epistles would come before the synoptic Gospels.”[2]
This statement is further confirmed by Prof. Brandon: “The earliest Christian writings that have been preserved for us are the letters of the apostle Paul”[3]
In the latter part of the second century, Dionysius, Bishop of Corinth says:
“As the brethren desired me to write epistles (letters), I did so, and these the apostles of the devil have filled with tares (undesirable elements), exchanging some things and adding others, for whom there is a woe reserved.  It is not therefore, a matter of wonder if some have also attempted to adulterate the sacred writings of the Lord, since they have attempted the same in other works that are not to be compared with these.”
The Quran confirms this with the words:
“Then woe to those who write the book (of Allah/God) with their own hands and then say: ‘This is from Allah’, to traffic with it for a miserable price.  Woe to them for what their hands do write and for the gain they make thereby.” (Quran 2:79)


Footnotes:
[1] From the introduction to the King James Bible, New revised and updated sixth edition, the Hebrew/Greek Key Study, Red Letter Edition.
[2] History of Christianity in the Light of Modern Knowledge, Rev. Charles Anderson Scott, p.338
[3] “Religions in Ancient History,” S.G.F. Brandon, p. 228.
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